Suspicious notes and users

hailtotheking · Post by **hailtotheking** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:15 pm

@ Fons

I was at work and had to act quick.
Unfortenately I copied twice the same hit.
But the moderaters got my message.
Both hits were moderated.

HTTK

tinka · Post by **tinka** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:41 am

the hit by me and duffieke is in the wrong direction (by the delay i have whit entering bills).
Mail has been send to correct this.

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:52 am

Hundreds of suspicious consecutive serials from Paulo Magalhães - Folhadela - Vila Real in the middle of the night...

2005-11-11 03:46:05 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:59 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:52 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:44 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:37 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:29 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:23 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:17 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:11 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:45:04 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:58 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:53 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:47 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:41 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:35 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:28 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:22 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:10 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:44:03 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:43:57 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)
2005-11-11 03:43:51 5 EURUxxxx9302xxx Lxxxxx Vila real ( Flag for Portugal Portugali, 5000-103)

Phaseolus · Post by **Phaseolus** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:27 pm

It's the first time that I use this thread, but today I am concerned : can someone start watching what is doing Ceric ; he entering pages of serial notes today.

Today is a bank holiday in France... It looks very suspicious to me that someone can get so many

on a bankholiday and they were there homogeneous series...

Phaseolus · Post by **Phaseolus** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:42 pm

Ir is becoming very urgent, as CERIC is entering serial nimbers again and again.

I am officially asking that action is taken to rapidly contact him and to ask for explanation.

My belief is that he is a cheater.

If it is true, I request that his account and banknotes be withdrawn rapidly : he is destabilising our Top 50.

I am furious !

Asiamaniac · Post by **Asiamaniac** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:58 pm

Yes, contacting first and asking kindly for an explanation. Couldn't it be that he has his day off and works his backlogs? Couldn't it be that he works at a bank himself and took his notes about numbers the last days? This might account for the many serials.

Of course, I may sound naive and fakers are to be taken away their entered notes, for sure , but we do not want a witch hunt on the other side as well. Let the Admins contact him first and settle the rest.

Apila^ · Post by **Apila^** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:05 pm

As far as I can see, he is entering new notes: consecutive serials and comment Neuf. He has not had a hit (at least today) with consecutive serials. He has two hits that are not suspicious at least to my eye, one found by him and one by other ebter. Even his hit-ratio is quite normal for France. So at least for now I don't see any problems with Ceric.

Phaseolus · Post by **Phaseolus** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:12 pm

The second hit by Ceric appeared a bit suspicious to me, I noticed it on the French Forum, quoting him "lucky".

Today, he entered more then 1000 notes, all new, all serials, all 20€, come on guys,... It is a bank holiday, today...

I have written to him, but, it looks too obvious to me.

I do not want to drag another "Che Gevara" (the French N°1 faker") on the first page of French Classification.

Just prove me I am wrong !

Mr Euro · Post by **Mr Euro** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:13 pm

Nothing to worry. He hasn't a profile of a cheater. Let's wait and see.

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:20 pm

Mr Euro wrote:Nothing to worry. He hasn't a profile of a cheater. Let's wait and see.

Wait and see is ok for some time, but when these very suspicious users (el_motedura for example) become chart leaders in their country, it turns out ugly. I think measures should be taken in some point.

(I know, I heat up very fast about this faker issue

)

Phaseolus · Post by **Phaseolus** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 9:38 pm

Please, folks, go to the section "bills" and select "France" ; he has got 10 pages filled with

of only serials.

He was not even in our Top 50 (that counts the 60 first French users) from last sunday. Now, he is number 23.

Jeh, our first user, is working in a bank, he is not entering these types of serials.

My opinion, is that Ceric started OK, then started thinking that things did not move enough rapidly for him... He found out the formula behind the serials and as he had nothing else to do today,... he got started...

In the beginning of the week, I defended Tintin6971 for lifting any doubt on him...

Today, I will fight to get rid of CERIC.

And rapidly, because, as Klazu, says it clearly, in countries where the number of EBT'ers are limited, this type of fakers are causing a lot of trouble !

vermeer · Post by **vermeer** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:37 pm

Jeh has taken over with consecutive

serialnumbers, but than he is the number 1 of France.

Hashut · Post by **Hashut** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:14 pm

Lord Vlad entered another hit with me. The bill has been REALLY passed to him, but I'm here just to tell this

Regards,

Post by **Nerzhul** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:25 am

Phaseolus wrote:Today, I will fight to get rid of CERIC.

Please folks, let's keep it civilized. If you think you need to emphasize your doubts about a user beyond posting here once get in contact with avij or me by PM or write an email to contact@eurobilltracker.com

I just had a look at Cerics notes. Yes, he entered a lot of brand new 10 and 20 EUR notes with consecutive serials in the last few days. But that alone is no reason to worry, let alone take action.

Of course we will continue to watch the situation. Sooner or later every faker makes a mistake, at which point we tend to erase all their notes (unless we have a good reason to act elsewise), so there's little damage they do to EBT in the long run. Patience is the key.

-M

Asiamaniac · Post by **Asiamaniac** » Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:55 pm

I think, a bit more attention than to Ceric has to be paid to this guy. He has lost a big deal of his notes and he is back again.

But well, at least the writing in his commentfield makes a sound impression, indicating that he has received it in a small gastronomic place in a street of his hometown.

Let us welcom him back when he has changed his attitude and becomes serious now, but due to his "history", an eye should be kept at him as well.