Suspicious notes and users
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Stica!(=lucky)!FANTAS wrote:Lucky...presidente wrote:I want to advise you that I have just inserted a serial of 18 new notes of 500 Euro location Bologna Italy: the bank gave me this notes.
Regards to all
-THE ThREAD DIGGER-
Passi per quello sfigato di Marin, passi per quella zoccola della Bruni, passi per una fabbrica di debito come Alitalia ma EBT NO!(Manadou sta gran zoccola)
IO NON SONO MARINARETTO
Passi per quello sfigato di Marin, passi per quella zoccola della Bruni, passi per una fabbrica di debito come Alitalia ma EBT NO!(Manadou sta gran zoccola)
IO NON SONO MARINARETTO
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@presidente: But yet you're lucky to be able to enter such notes! I just dream of those 500€ notes...
For me it seems pretty waste of time for well-known users (presidente, pastel, etc.) to post here 'warnings' about their consecutive serial entries. I only look out for known suspicious users' entries plus some fresh users. Others (and of course none, if one's entries are real) have nothing to worry about IMHO.
For me it seems pretty waste of time for well-known users (presidente, pastel, etc.) to post here 'warnings' about their consecutive serial entries. I only look out for known suspicious users' entries plus some fresh users. Others (and of course none, if one's entries are real) have nothing to worry about IMHO.
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Hit into serials. 370 days... User shrt has been held suspicious even by avij in the past!
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
I didn't quite notice how many serials the actually was...
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
I didn't quite notice how many serials the actually was...
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I´m glad to read that I´m now a well-known userKlazu wrote:For me it seems pretty waste of time for well-known users (presidente, pastel, etc.) to post here 'warnings' about their consecutive serial entries. I only look out for known suspicious users' entries plus some fresh users. Others (and of course none, if one's entries are real) have nothing to worry about IMHO.
Pastel
This pretty obvious mark of a cheater. I thought this through once more to be sure (and because I like to bust cheaters ).Klazu wrote:Hit into serials. 370 days... User shrt has been held suspicious even by avij in the past!
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
2006-01-19 12:45:19 10 EURLxxxx1178xxx Dxxxxx Karstula ( Flag for Finland Suomi, 43500)
I didn't quite notice how many serials the actually was...
Sure, it possible to get notes with consecutive serials from banks/ATMs/etc. It's also possible to get consecutive serials in bundles, where there is also other notes between (so when one enters notes from the bundle, they numbers ain't in a 'row'). So let's think that Trico got that note this way. He got it from a bank (Paikallisosuuspankki). As far as I know, he sometimes returns same notes (/bundles) into another bank (when notes stay pretty much in the same order). Or then he spreads the notes in different stores. But what ever the case, according to this hit, Trico should have returned the note back to other notes (consecutive serials, which shrt entered) in excatly same place. After that the consecutive notes should have traveled together for 370 days into the hands of shrt. OK, it's still possible...
...althought one thing makes everything so against the odds (something like 1 : 100 000 000); how on Earth would Trico have only got THAT (one) note and not the other consecutive notes Doesn't make more sense, because Trico would have got all the other notes around the hit note. So those should also be entred by Trico, but they're not. This suggest that Trico had only that note, no other from those consecutive serials. And at least for me it's impossible to think that that one note would have found to another consecutives notes after Trico. And all of this in 370 days.
I find this all (badly explained, but covers all the facts) next to impossible to happend in real life, so my conclusion is: user shrt is obviously faking this hit (which makes it very possible that also in the past he'll have hunderds if not all of his notes fake). I rest my case.
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Update:
Here a list of (quite) sure fakers:
77 grizzly (hit into series!!)
431 shrt (Hit into series!!)
513 Luis Gonçalves (entering many L shortcodes)
568 Didiermidol (Hit into series!!)
672 Flick (many series of consecutive serial numbers)
971 Hins (Hit into series!!)
1013 procure (many series of consecutive serial numbers)
1134 McManne/user48993 (hit into series!!)
Not seen fakers:
Woombel (many serials!) (Not Seen)
Laurent210171 (Avij noticed this faker) (got warning) (Not Seen)
Bixi (Hit into serials!!) (Not Seen)
Portuga2004 (Avij noticed this faker) (got warning) (Not Seen)
rui.matos (entering serials) (Not Seen)
madbadboy (entering serials) (Not Seen)
ROR (entering serials) (Not Seen)
magnotico (not existing serials) (Not Seen)
The Real Watcher (entering serials) (Not Seen)
Bdpont (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
ivronne (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
johnnyred (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Keyne (hit into series!!) (got warning) (Not Seen)
Pantoufle/RNEVES (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
JilAlf (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Pantoufle (Hit into series!!) (Not Seen)
foxyschil (hit into series!!) (Not Seen)
Froggie (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Bart Vyvey (Hit into series!!) (Not Seen)
gpeck (entering from fake locations) (Not Seen)
ChroniC (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Theese people's lost most of their notes because they are fakers.
Pitscho/Banktracker
Taiwind
/ centless_dreamer / µsoft / Pikku Karhu / NikkeT / SteffenW / Reebok Pumps / honey666
nick-nicola
Sani2000
renny moniz
SkaterBoy
Niclas
G,Müller
69Midas69
k22r12
CSNDA-10/claudioesimone
el_motedura
charneca
midge_ure
Reiss
lila
vtm
Here a list of (quite) sure fakers:
77 grizzly (hit into series!!)
431 shrt (Hit into series!!)
513 Luis Gonçalves (entering many L shortcodes)
568 Didiermidol (Hit into series!!)
672 Flick (many series of consecutive serial numbers)
971 Hins (Hit into series!!)
1013 procure (many series of consecutive serial numbers)
1134 McManne/user48993 (hit into series!!)
Not seen fakers:
Woombel (many serials!) (Not Seen)
Laurent210171 (Avij noticed this faker) (got warning) (Not Seen)
Bixi (Hit into serials!!) (Not Seen)
Portuga2004 (Avij noticed this faker) (got warning) (Not Seen)
rui.matos (entering serials) (Not Seen)
madbadboy (entering serials) (Not Seen)
ROR (entering serials) (Not Seen)
magnotico (not existing serials) (Not Seen)
The Real Watcher (entering serials) (Not Seen)
Bdpont (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
ivronne (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
johnnyred (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Keyne (hit into series!!) (got warning) (Not Seen)
Pantoufle/RNEVES (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
JilAlf (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Pantoufle (Hit into series!!) (Not Seen)
foxyschil (hit into series!!) (Not Seen)
Froggie (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Bart Vyvey (Hit into series!!) (Not Seen)
gpeck (entering from fake locations) (Not Seen)
ChroniC (many series of consecutive serial numbers) (Not Seen)
Theese people's lost most of their notes because they are fakers.
Pitscho/Banktracker
Taiwind
/ centless_dreamer / µsoft / Pikku Karhu / NikkeT / SteffenW / Reebok Pumps / honey666
nick-nicola
Sani2000
renny moniz
SkaterBoy
Niclas
G,Müller
69Midas69
k22r12
CSNDA-10/claudioesimone
el_motedura
charneca
midge_ure
Reiss
lila
vtm
Last edited by Ralf on Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:11 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Same here. My recent and long-awaited 1st international hit (after 14 months and 7000 bills!) is also with someone on the list...
Since many if not all of these seriously busted "counterfeiters" never come onto the forum to defend themselves, why not just wipe their entries out... (is it a question of waiting a little longer, until they have wasted even more of their time - which also comes at the cost of ultimately disappointing and potentially putting off honest users who are tricked into believing they've gotten real hits...)
This said, we have identified a new hyperactive French user who may well have already made a very dumb mistake ... it is not immediately obvious -- but it is blaringly so once you pick up on it...I have been in contact with Phaseolus (French forum moderator) about it and he agrees we have reason to investigate. I will not post the details here just in case the user in question (not registered on the forum) reads this, as it will be interesting to see if the user's current pattern continues. Avij and/or Nerzhul (or other moderators who deal with suspicious users), please pm me for details.
Since many if not all of these seriously busted "counterfeiters" never come onto the forum to defend themselves, why not just wipe their entries out... (is it a question of waiting a little longer, until they have wasted even more of their time - which also comes at the cost of ultimately disappointing and potentially putting off honest users who are tricked into believing they've gotten real hits...)
This said, we have identified a new hyperactive French user who may well have already made a very dumb mistake ... it is not immediately obvious -- but it is blaringly so once you pick up on it...I have been in contact with Phaseolus (French forum moderator) about it and he agrees we have reason to investigate. I will not post the details here just in case the user in question (not registered on the forum) reads this, as it will be interesting to see if the user's current pattern continues. Avij and/or Nerzhul (or other moderators who deal with suspicious users), please pm me for details.
I've a hit which is quite sure a fake:
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=13505910
The hit-partners:
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... 8;id=76692
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... 8;id=76618
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=13505910
The hit-partners:
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... 8;id=76692
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... 8;id=76618
@Säbb: Those are pretty easy to handle. If they're not fake, they are pretty likely hits between friends (accidential or not). So anyway they are at least not-interesting (and should be moderated)...[/i]
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I noticed some hits between the new users
Erich Anton
and
Scarlett57
20-01-2006 Hit 4
17-01-2006 Hit 3
17-01-2006 Hit 2
15-01-2006 Hit 1
I have no idea in what way the rest of you think these hits are interesting.
Both guys have a hitratio around evey 10-12 notes with these hits so they must know each other...
In my opinion these hits have to be marked as not interesting..
Erich Anton
and
Scarlett57
20-01-2006 Hit 4
17-01-2006 Hit 3
17-01-2006 Hit 2
15-01-2006 Hit 1
I have no idea in what way the rest of you think these hits are interesting.
Both guys have a hitratio around evey 10-12 notes with these hits so they must know each other...
In my opinion these hits have to be marked as not interesting..